Monday, December 12, 2011

The worst email you can receive after a date



via - The Stir

If ever there was a reason to hide under the covers with a box of wine and swear off men for good, this might be it. A 1,600-word email has been making the rounds recently that's written by a poor man who really doesn't get it. His name is Mike, and he and Lauren went out on a date. Mike then proceeded to text, call, and finally email Lauren after he hadn't heard back from her.

You see, Lauren thought the date was horrific and didn't want anything to do with Mike. But Mike didn't like being ignored. Not at all. So he googled her, figured out her email, and sent along the most epic tome of embarrassing un-self-awareness that there ever was. He writes:


Hi Lauren,

I'm disappointed in you. I'm disappointed that I haven't gotten a response to my voicemail and text messages. FYI, I suggest that you keep in mind that emails sound more impersonal, harsher, and are easier to misinterpret than in-person or phone communication. After all, people can't see someone's body language or tone of voice in an email. I'm not trying to be harsh, patronizing, or insulting in this email. I'm honest and direct by nature, and I'm going to be that way in this email. By the way, I did a google search, so that's how I came across your email.

I assume that you no longer want to go out with me. (If you do want to go out with me, then you should let me know.) I suggest that you make a sincere apology to me for giving me mixed signals. I feel led on by you.

Things that happened during our date include, but are not limited to, the following:

-You played with your hair a lot. A woman playing with her hair is a common sign of flirtation. You can even do a google search on it. When a woman plays with her hair, she is preening. I've never had a date where a woman played with her hair as much as you did. In addition, it didn't look like you were playing with your hair out of nervousness.

-We had lots of eye contact during our date. On a per-minute basis, I've never had as much eye contact during a date as I did with you.

-You said, "It was nice to meet you." at the end of our date. A woman could say this statement as a way to show that she isn't interested in seeing a man again or she could mean what she said--that it was nice to meet you. The statement, by itself, is inconclusive.

-We had a nice conversation over dinner. I don't think I'm being delusional in saying this statement.

In my opinion, leading someone on (i.e., giving mixed signals) is impolite and immature. It's bad to do that.

Normally, I would not be asking for information if a woman and I don't go out again after a first date. However, in our case, I'm curious because I think our date went well and that there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship. Of course, it's difficult to predict what would happen, but I think there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship developing between us one day (or least there was before your non-response to my voicemail and text messages).

I think we should go out on a second date. In my opinion, our first date was good enough to lead to a second date.

Why am I writing you? Well, hopefully, we will go out again. Even if we don't, I gain utility from expressing my thoughts to you. In addition, even if you don't want to go out again, I would like to get feedback as to why you wouldn't want to go again. Normally, I wouldn't ask a woman for this type of feedback after a first date, but this is an exception given I think we have a lot of potential.

If you don't want to go again, then apparently you didn't think our first date was good enough to lead to a second date. Dating or a relationship is not a Hollywood movie. It's good to keep that in mind. In general, I thought the date went well and was expecting that we would go out on a second date.

If you're not interested in going out again, then I would have preferred if you hadn't given those mixed signals. I feel led on. We have a number of things in common. I'll name a few things: First, we’ve both very intelligent. Second, we both like classical music so much that we go to classical music performances by ourselves. In fact, the number one interest that I would want to have in common with a woman with whom I'm in a relationship is a liking of classical music. I wouldn't be seriously involved with a woman if she didn't like classical music. You said that you're planning to go the NY Philharmonic more often in the future.

As I said, I go to the NY Philharmonic often. You're very busy. It would be very convenient for you to date me because we have the same interests. We already go to classical music performances by ourselves. If we go to classical music performances together, it wouldn't take any significant additional time on your part. According to the internet, you're 33 or 32, so, at least from my point of view, we're a good match in terms of age. I could name more things that we have in common, but I'll stop here. I don't understand why you apparently don't want to go out with me again. We have numerous things in common. I assume that you find me physically attractive. If you didn't find me physically attractive, then it would have been irrational for you to go out with me in the first place. After all, our first date was not a blind date. You already knew what I looked like before our date. Perhaps, you're unimpressed that I manage my family’s investments and my own investments. Perhaps, you don’t think I have a "real" job. Well, I’ve done very well as an investment manager. I've made my parents several millions of dollars.

That's real money. That's not monopoly money. In my opinion, if I make real money, it's a real job. Donald Trump's children work for his company. Do they have "real" jobs? I think so. George Soros's sons help manage their family investments. Do they have "real" jobs? I think so. In addition, I’m both a right-brain and left-brain man, given that I’m both an investment manager and a philosopher/writer. That’s a unique characteristic; most people aren't like that. I've never been as disappointed and sad about having difficulty about getting a second date as I am with you. I've gone out with a lot of women in my life. (FYI, I'm not a serial dater. Sometimes, I've only gone out with a woman for one date.) People don’t grow on trees. I hope you appreciate the potential we have.

Am I sensitive person? Sure, I am. I think it's better to be sensitive than to be insensitive. There are too many impolite, insensitive people in the world.

I suggest that we continue to go out and see what happens. Needless to say, I find you less appealing now (given that you haven't returned my messages) than I did at our first date. However, I would be willing to go out with you again. I'm open minded and flexible and am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I wish you would give me the benefit of the doubt too. If you don't want to go out again, in my opinion, you would be making a big mistake, perhaps one of the biggest mistakes in your life. If you don’t want to go out again, then you should have called to tell me so. Even sending a text message would have been better than nothing. In my opinion, not responding to my messages is impolite, immature, passive aggressive, and cowardly. I spent time, effort, and money meeting you for dinner. Getting back to me in response to my messages would have been a reasonable thing for you to do. In addition, you arrived about 30 minutes late for our date. I'm sure you wouldn’t like it if a man showed up thirty minutes late for a first date with you.

If you're concerned that you will hurt my feelings by providing specific information about why you don't want to go with me again, well, my feeling are already hurt. I'm sad and disappointed about this situation. If you give information, at least I can understand the situation better. I might even learn something that is beneficial.

If you don't want to go out again, that I request that you call me and make a sincere apology for leading me on (i.e., giving me mixed signals). In my opinion, you shouldn't act that way toward a man and then not go out with him again. It's bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if you're not interested in going out with me again. I have tried to write this email well, but it's not perfect. Again, I'm not trying to be harsh, insulting, patronizing, etc. I'm disappointed, sad, etc. I would like to talk to you on the phone. I hope you will call me back at xxx-xxx-xxxx> (if it's inconvenient for you to talk on the phone when you read this email, you can let me know via email that you are willing to talk on the phone and I'll call you). If you get my voicemail, you can a leave a message and I can call you back. Even if you don't want to go out again, I would appreciate it if you give me the courtesy of calling me and talking to me. Yes, you might say things that hurt me, but my feelings are already hurt. Sending me an email response (instead of talking on the phone) would better than no response at all, but I think it would be better to talk on the phone. Email communication has too much potential for misinterpretation, etc.

Best, Mike

45 comments:

krysta said...

holy shit who can even read all that crap

Anonymous said...

WOW!!!! Im alittle confused... Is he sad and hurt? Haha talk about repeating yourself... If he was like that on the date I dont blame the poor girl for ignoring him.

Lisa said...

I'd like to see both of their pictures in order to laugh a lot more about this.

Anonymous said...

Holy hell, can we say STAGE 5 CLINGER STALKER ALERT!!!!

Anonymous said...

Physco...... lol

baseballmom said...

holy god-shuttup already! if he ran on and on like that on the date, no wonder she dumped him!!!

Anonymous said...

IQ alert. Less than 90. This was in an eastern mountainous state, right?

Zen said...

Holy crap, I dated this guy...once. & I rec'd an similar email, I think, I read the first 2 paragraphs and hit "delete"!

No Cure for Stupid said...

Time to pull homies "Man Card". Jesus, nut it up ya poof.

Anonymous said...

Holy shit!! He seriously wants a second date!!! LOLOL

Anonymous said...

"it's nice to meet you" at the end of a date translates to "no way your getting in MY pants" cause lets face it...if the date was good on any level, the correct manner of saying "hi nice to meet you" would include but not limited to a lip lock or even a pitty hand job in your car....she called you a loser dude...go buy a hooker, you would have much better luck I think

elli said...

OMG that guy wrote a flippin book!!!! I had to stop reading about the 60th time he asked an apology. The douche could just read his own note to see why she didn't call back hahaha

cnjnana said...

O.M.G.!!!! I AM SURPRISED THAT SHE EVEN SURVIVED THE FIRST DATE CUZ HE SOUNDS SERIOUSLY DERANGED AND PSYCHOTIC...SHE COULD HAVE ENDED UP WITH HER HEAD IN HIS FREEZER!!

Sister Cattleprod of Enlightenment said...

I'd seriously like to beat the living crap out of this dude. Just for general principles, if you know what I mean.

Anonymous said...

LMAO this reminds me of the guy who said he was in love with me after only knowing me for a month. :p Creepy doesn't not attract the ladies.

Anonymous said...

OMG! This man is sick, sick, sick and too damned dangerous. I only pray she changed her email & phone number and that he doesn't know where she lives or works. I would have laughed but he's so pathetically dangerous all I can do is hope she is safe. However, other women he sets his sights on are not safe. Ladies beware.

No Cure for Stupid said...

To Anonymous who posted the hand job in the car comment......you busy next weekend?

jenn said...

And you guys say women are psychos....

Anonymous said...

Aspergers - not psycho or low IQ, just underdeveloped socially.

Anonymous said...

I would definitely reconsider any future solo visits to the philharmonic.

Unknown said...

Run, B!

kiki said...

Oh hell no! Run girl!

SnuggleBunches said...

Ugh. I gave a guy at a bar my # and asked him not to call till the next weekend cuz I was moving. He called 3 times that night and 5 the next day... Moron.

Anonymous said...

Well it was refreshing to read something that had a proper use of grammar and spelling. A bit repetitive, but better than 90% of crap on Facebook, or just general written material. Reading over the comments I suggest of a you read the entire Email so you understand the English language better.

Best,
Heil Grammar

Anonymous said...

"Proper use of grammar and spelling?"

Are you serious? I could probably deal with an intelligent stalker, but this guy is just pretending.

Anonymous said...

It's certainly clear why she wouldn't want to go out with him again, but why is it that a person CAN'T just let a person KNOW? A simple text "Sorry, I will not be going out with you again." I hate games and ignoring somebody is a game in my book if you've already gone on a date with him/her.

Anonymous said...

Ahahaha! He is going to stay alone....

Anonymous said...

Dear Mike,

Fuck off!

Anonymous said...

This is old...been around forever...YAWN!

Anonymous said...

I have had a "mike" in my life. Never give the creepy ones any hope...a touch on the shoulder turns into them sending you penis pics..things I will never get out of my head. Men if there's hope for the future..todays girls say good bye in no questions needed ways;)

Anonymous said...

Someone needs or forgot to take their medication. Pathetic broken record makes me wanna jump off a cliff. I can't believe I wasted 5 minutes of my life to hear about this idiot's delusional existence. What a LOSER!

Anonymous said...

Old letter

Anonymous said...

Holy snot bubbles batman! I want to drink FOR her! Lol jeez!!!

Anonymous said...

oy i think i dated that guy once too, ewww... i couldn't read it all, what a freak, gives me the same oogy feeling as the guy i went out to coffee w/ one time and realized no thank you, and then he'd appear under the streetlight across from my apt looking up at my window... yikes!

Anonymous said...

that is the scariest shit ever, this sick FUCK was most likely sitting under her window when he sent this email....take note guys, this kind of shit that will ensure you never get a call, text and/or email from us, and trust and believe we will make sure every female (including enemies) will be informed about you!

Rowdy Reign said...

I read that ENTIRE letter, and I cry for her man....dewd is a TOTAL creeper...HOLY SHIT!

-sigh-

When will men learn that when you are ignored, it's because we are not interested. He REALLY went in with his reaction to her ignoring him, I bet she continued after this e-mail as well, because I know I fucking would have. That is a Norman Bates muhfucker. Holy hell.

Okay, I'm done.

Anonymous said...

Oh my goodness! If I were her I'd be scared!

Anonymous said...

From the letter I can tell he has Aspergers (think of Sheldon from "the big bang theory" show. They can't interpret social cues, such as sarcasm;however they tend to have very high IQs.

Anonymous said...

I received one of those after a coffee date, apparently he was in love with me.

Its super scary.

Anonymous said...

He's socially inept. It has to be aspergers or something because he was listing what actions mean. Repetitive as hell

Anonymous said...

I had a "Mike" in my life as well. After a disasterous first date, he started sending flowers w/love notes to my job, calling me at work and at home, camped out on my patio at night so he would be the first thing I saw in the morning...and it got even worse. I finally had him arrested for trespassing, and while he was in jail, I moved across the country (from Phoenix to Detroit). I wasn't scared, but I was pissed off to the max that I had to resort to moving to get this psycho to leave me alone!

LindzYooo said...

#ForeverAlone lmao.

Anonymous said...

Douche-bag

PaePae said...

Lol!

Karen said...

Thank you